In this week's episode the crew talks about what they think will come of the January 6th trials. We talk about Elyse falling into a gopher hole. Then Elyse shares a devotional on being unloved and then beloved.
Shannan Martin joins us to talk about the sky, empathy, food, and her latest book Start with Hello. We have a wonderful conversation as evevidenced by the longest podcast we have recorded in a very long time.